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They say there's a book inside everybody. Let the book out with Admanya blogs. Vent your feelings about anything that pops into your head. It might be rocket science or your neighbour's cat. Start now! Its easy and fun! Blog Imam arrested for 'raping' 8-year-oldPosted by bigman on 24 January 2012
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SOURCE: http://bdnews24.com/details.php?id=216585&cid=2
Pirojpur, Bangladesh Jan 21 (bdnews24.com) ” Police have arrested an imam on charges that he violated an 8-year-old female madrasa student at Pirojpur district's Swarupkathi upazila. Upzila's Qazi Bari Mosque's Imam Mohammar Nurul Islam was arrested after the girl's parents lodged a rape case on Saturday with the Swarupkathi Police Station, police said. Station's inspector (investigation) Surendranath Adhikari told bdnews24.com that Nurul Islam, a Fazil grade student of the upazila's Sarsina Alia Madrasa, was also presented before the court following his arrest. According to case details, Islam was appointed to tutor the victim in Arabic. Islam reportedly violated the girl when she was alone at the madrasa in the morning. Her parents admitted her to upazila health complex after the girl arrived home and fell sick. After lodging the case, the victim's mother told reporters, "I sent her to the imam to learn Arabic thinking he was a good person. But I did not know this would happen."
Comments (21) Khair wrote on 24 January, 2012
Thanks to BIGMAN for keeping any eye on this and letting us know. Child molestation is rampant throughout the sub-continent. This crime should be dealt with severely. Punishments should be severe to act as deterrent.
Here is another one closer to home for BIGMAN where a sadhu was caught after raping a minor girl: http://www.indianexpress.com/news/bogus-sadhu-gets-2-yr-ri-for-raping-minor/731948/ The disgusting thing is that he was sentenced to only 2 years RI and Rs 200 fine and an extra 15 days imprisonment if he refused to pay. DannyM wrote on 24 January, 2012
Khair@ Your tone suggests that what's wrong if an Imam ....... a 8 year old child? Because instead of categorically condemning the obnoxious act of the Imam, you have countered with an example. Who knows maybe in that case a Fatwa would have declared against you had you condemned this ghastly act of the IMAM.WHAT A GREAT TEACHER THIS SADIST IMAM IS!!!
Khair wrote on 24 January, 2012
This is even worse: a sadhu in West Bengal convicted of raping a three and half year old girl. BIGMAN must be commended for bringing this topic to light. This one is probably not far from him.
http://news.oneindia.in/2007/01/31/jail-for-sadhu-for-rape-a-minor-girl-1170238907.html And this one must be surely get everyone seething with rage. The parents of the minor consented to the rape of their minor daughter by a sadhu, according to the news. http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2005-08-08/ahmedabad/27841866_1_sadhu-minor-girl-surat Khair wrote on 24 January, 2012
@DANNYM, up to your old bigotry again? Read again with your eyes not your bigoted head because this is what I had written:
"This crime should be dealt with severely. Punishments should be severe to act as deterrent." Do you know what that means? I demanded severe punishment. I don't care how criminals identify themselves. To me a criminal is a criminal whether they call themselves sadhu or imam. YOU, on the other hand, did not condemn it. To you the rape of a minor is not the issue. The important things is whether it was an imam or a sadhu. If it is an imam involve you start jumping up and down. If it is a sadhu you hide or find excuses. DannyM wrote on 24 January, 2012
Khair@ What are you trying to prove by citing these examples, are you shielding this IMAM? I categorically condemn that Sadhu, he should be subjected to strict punishment. He has insulted this Safron institution. Here I would not give any example of any Imam doing the same from the internetnet.Here is the difference. If I would have given then it would have outnumbered the lists of Sadhus( if at all)by huge margin!!!
Khair wrote on 24 January, 2012
@DANNYM, now you are talking!
So, stop trying to point score with your bigoted talk about Imam and fatwa, and like me condemn the act. Now you are better able to see, I hope, that it does not matter whether the perpetrator is an Imam or a Sadhu; they are both the same if they commit this evil act. There is no reason to feel good if the perpetrator is an Imam, and feel defensive when it is a Sadhu. They are both criminals, and anyone who tries to take advantage of this situation to further their bigoted agenda is a quasi-criminal - on the way to become a criminal. I trust our points of view are converging on the core issue here. We should thank BIGMAN again for raising this. Although, I would have preferred that he were more balanced with his examples. Khair wrote on 24 January, 2012
@DANNYM, by the way, I am happy to take you up on the length of the list anytime. I could do even better and provide you some statistics to ponder upon. And then after a while your typical response will be to go quiet just as you had done on several other posts here.
bigman wrote on 26 January, 2012
The Sadhu Khair is talking about is a loser who failed to find a girl friend and resorted to child sex. He is a pervert indeed there is no second opinion about that. BUT..... there is always a BUT when it comes to Imams, as they derive their morals from the life of muhammad. They shamelessly justify it as a pious act inspired by their religion.
Here is an excerpt from Grand Ayatollah Khomeini's book: [ Tahrir-al-Waslah ] "A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate vaginally, but sodomising the child is acceptable. If a man does penetrate and damage the child then, he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life." Undoubtedly inspired by the 54 year old prophet who raped a 9 year old Ayesha, Mashallah. bigman wrote on 26 January, 2012
Khair...I accept your thanks. do you now see how it matters when the perpetrator is an Imam? Muhammad sets himself as a benchmark in Quran, to be followed by all people for eternity. he claims in him is an example to be followed and the poor imam is just doing his duty. What a perverted religion indeed. Shame on you khair.
Khair wrote on 26 January, 2012
@BIGMAN, thanks for substantiating my argument once again.
You have proved with your last two posts what I said before: If it is a sadhu perpetrating the evil, you have no problem with that. You find excuses for the perpetrator. On the other hand, if it is an imam perpetrating the evil, you discover more problems there; you want to judge an entire faith/religon based on the actions of a person(s) because the person is a Muslim. What does the above define you as? Look up what name is given to a person obstinately showing the following characteristics: "... a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs. The predominant usage in modern English refers to persons hostile to those of differing sex, race, ethnicity, religious belief or spirituality, nationality, language, sexual orientation, and age; often this is accompanied by lies to condemn those groups ... cosmicbomber wrote on 26 January, 2012
@bigman - this is the most ridiculous defence I have ever heard, are you trying to say that the sadhus are not supposed to derive any moral teachings from our Hindu scriptures or lives of spiritual Hindu leaders like Chaitanyadev or SriRamkrishna? Or the sadhus according to you are basically lots who are unsuccessful in finding a girlfriend through socializing and they then resort to this profession temporarily (if I may say so) until they find a helpless young child for fulfilling their carnal desire?
This is a most damning charge on Hindu holy men and I am sure many of your orthodox brethren will not be at all amused! I hope my observation does not pose any threat to humanity and also not be seen as any kind of appeasement. BOTH the Imam and the sadhu are RAPISTS and they should be booked under the same code of IPC irrespective of from whom they are supposed to draw their moral lessons. bigman wrote on 27 January, 2012
Khair...The equation is simple [54 X 9 = child abuse] which is seen as a miracle by a pious muslim and a debacle by a sane human. Neither CBs political correctness nor Khair's ignorant comments address the real issue. Perhaps i now understand why DANNYM's response goes quiet after reading your comments.
Khair wrote on 27 January, 2012
@COSMICBOMBER has echoed in a much more potent manner the point I was trying to make to BIGMAN and DANNYM. I completely agree - the issue is not about the religious or ethnic identities of these criminals. Whoever the rapist is - whether a sadhu or an imam or whoever else, no matter what their position is in society, they should be brought to justice, as simple as that.
Child rapists are one of the most despicable people in society and they usually perpetrate their heinous acts by gaining positions of trust which make simple people vulnerable to their misdeeds. I don't see why we can't have a consensus simply on opposing this crime amongst all sections of the society? DannyM wrote on 27 January, 2012
Khair@ DannyM had never linked this with religion. It is you who had countered Bigman and presented the case of a Hindu sadhu and showed us your teat for tat approach. This again proves that you are a hypocrite of the highest order.After getting into this debate suddenly you have taken an U turn and started big talks. Nobody under the sun would excuse the Sadhu, in fact he deserves a very strict punishment, which indeed he would receive some day. It is one of the greatest sins under the sun. And hope you Allha would also burn that Imam into hellfire and roast him!!!
Khair wrote on 28 January, 2012
@DANNYM, if there was any doubt what you were trying to achieve your last post settles it. It proves that not only were you linking this despicable crime with religion but actually trying to condemn another religion using this.
All this time, little BIGMAN was resorting to his usual bigoted pronouncements such as on Jan 26: “there is always a BUT when it comes to Imams, as they derive their morals from the life of muhammad. They shamelessly justify it as a pious act inspired by their religion” – BIGMAN and more evidence of his bigotry on the same day: “Muhammad sets himself as a benchmark in Quran, to be followed by all people for eternity. he claims in him is an example to be followed and the poor imam is just doing his duty. What a perverted religion indeed” - BIGMAN To be fair, BIGMAN did not go back on what he said, but you DANNYM are trying to cover it up for him suggesting BIGMAN was actually not talking against any religion. How hypocritical of you! more .. Khair wrote on 28 January, 2012
contd ..
By the way, DANNYM, I didn’t show any “teat” as you suggest because I don’t have any. If you want to see teat, try Sonagachi. I note that you suggest punishment for the sadhu some day, and roasting in hell for the imam. If it were up to me I would recommend punishment not some day, but roasting both of them on the earth right away; because I don’t see any difference betwen the two of them; they are both criminals. Similarly, I don’t see any difference between a bigot who is a Hindu and a bigot who is a Muslim or a follower of any other faith for that matter. They are all the same to me and I condemn them. DannyM wrote on 30 January, 2012
Khair@ you have falsely accused DannM for linking the crime with religion. It is you who had countered Bigman with an example and started the game. The term " Burning into hellfire" was used by Jam Ali many a time. I thought may be that is Islam approved way of punishing somebody.In fact in every sematic religion hell/ hellfire is provided for the sinners.Hence I thought that the Imam might get his punishment this way, but I equally condemn that sadhu for committing such crime. In Hindu religion the concept of hellfire is not present and they believe in rebirth , hence I had commented that the sadhu would surely get punishment someday, that means if he manages to escape punishment in his preset life still would not be able to avoid punishment in his future births. However the sooner he gets the punishment , the better for the society.
I have got very little knowledge of Sonagachi.If required then I would surely request you to share your experience of Sonagachi to enrich our knowledge! Khair wrote on 01 February, 2012
@DANNYM, it is good to see you starting to make a U turn but I can see you are doing it quite reluctantly. You know as well as anyone else what BIGMAN was doing. All you got to do is scroll above and witness his bigoted trash. I had copied and pasted three of those above and you let it slide completely. I could point out many more right across various blogs in Admanya, but I don't think that would make any difference to you as you have taken it upon yourself to defend his bigotry no matter what the evidence.
The difference between you and me is that you try to identify criminals by their religions, whereas to me a criminal is a criminal; I am not at all interested in their religion. This might explain why you get overjoyed when you hear of an imam doing the wrong thing, and get defensive when the same act is commited by a sadhu. Unfortunately, Sonagachi is very very very far from me. It is probably much closer to you. I was referring to Sonagachi because you said I showed teat. RP_Singh wrote on 01 February, 2012
This debate surprises me.
DannyM wrote on 01 February, 2012
Khair@ I also sometimes donot like the way Bigman expresses his views. Sometimes he speaks illogically which reflects his poor test. If you have different views then you should logically present them , but should not get involved in mud slinging. I have always tried to present my views logically, which may or may not be liked by everybody. I donot subscribe to the fact that a criminal should be judged by his religion.The term "Teat" was a typographic error in place of "tit". Hope you are intelligent enough to understand that it was a typographical error. But you have taken this typographic error to a new height which should have been done away with easily.You demonstrated poor test. You had presented the case of a Sadhu to counter Bigman only. Now don't try to hogwash our eyes with your lecture. Your statement "Why you get overjoyed..... By a sadhu" is your crazy imagination only.
Khair wrote on 05 February, 2012
@DANNYM, I am glad you are belatedly starting to notice how BIGMAN expresses his views. Not only does he speak illogically (as you state), but quite often he is downright bigoted in what he says. I am sure readers would be glad if you too take a look at some of your posts and try to temper your expression as well. I wouldn't mind putting them up here if you would like me to. You will see they are not very different in theme and presentation from what BIGMAN usually does.
I had presented the examples to show it is not because of religion that criminals like the sadhu and the imam do such things. You will not I did not say a word against Hindus or Hinduism. You will never find me making bigoted statements. You, on the other hand, chose to take BIGMAN's side because my example involved a sadhu. You chose to make it a matter of religion in tune with BIGMAN, not me. I don't claim to be a person of perfect taste. We are all entitled to some harmless humour. 
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